Friday Happy Hour Podcast, on what it really means to make “An Effort to Understand”

This is the best interview I’ve done on the book so far. I thank hosts Gary Sheffer and Mike Fernandez for leading me to the very core of what my book is about, what my work is about and—hell, what my life is about.

Click here to find your way to your favorite podcast platform. Interview starts about 18:00 in.